This was chosen after I discovered all the bread machines from low to high-end are full of widely reported issues of non-stick coating coming off and even lubricant oil from the mixing valve. Get a mixer and these pans but make sure the edges are smooth, I had to replace an order because they were sharp enough to cut skin. Some Lodge pans can have milling issues but because this pan has long straight lines it's something to check on delivery. The QA for Lodge products on 鶹 need to be double checked as it's possible their lesser expensive stock named "Seconds" made their way in to fill quotas.