I bought these 11 days ago, wore each of them twice, and they're already so badly stretched and damaged by the Velcro that they're useless. They're extremely thin as well, I have to add an extra layer under the spots where the Velcro us on both sides as it's actually cut me, and I have to put an extra layer over it to comfortably use ice packs, where with other brands I can use ice packs over them without any added layers. Spend the extra few bucks and wait the extra day for a different brand.