I am watching my Wife create a carpet made of pink yarn put toghether with that bee needle point thing. I am the dumbest in this. The item has four spokes at the top and you weave yarn with a specific hook. Rosella turned the skane into a half inch diameter mile long dtring. She is putting it together with a needle like one of these. Same length as the first one. And the larger ones in the set will be put to good use. The angle is a bit different. Narrower. The arch is tighter. Have a nice day everyone.